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#1 Old Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-17, 22:52

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Hi All,
I am new to the forum and relatively new to pys60.

I am trying to port an application I wrote from Maemo to s60.
Apparently my code uses some lines and libraries that need python 2.5 modules and can't run on the current s60 version.

I found an old post from last year about "eventually" upgrading pys60 to a newer python base, but no time estimation since then.

I have to make a decision whether to re-write my code practically from scratch, or hold on until a newer pys60 version is available.

Is there some approximation on when if at all such an upgrade is expected? (even at the level of 1 month, 1 year, 10 years...)

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#2 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 04:41

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hi nadav
welcome to the forum nokia pys60 developers community.
There is no particular time when the upgradation will be announced. If you are in a hurry then start your application from the scratch.
I feel more light can be thrown on this topic by any forum nokia expert.

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#3 Old Thumbs up Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 06:39

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Is there some approximation on when if at all such an upgrade is expected? (even at the level of 1 month, 1 year, 10 years...)
No public approximation available yet !

And I can't say much because I am bounded by some limits

But, Hope for the Best , Nokia has always given PyS60 what it wants

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#4 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 06:58

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I am trying to port an application I wrote from Maemo to s60.
So you mean that PyS60 apps might run in Maemo, too? With some changes? Guess I will have to check Hildon API? Never thought S90 legacy would live this long

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Is there some approximation on when if at all such an upgrade is expected? (even at the level of 1 month, 1 year, 10 years...)
When looking back, it seems like PyS60 updates are released about 4 times a year. Since version 1.4.4 was released 27 June 2008, I'm guessing that next release might be close to end of this month? No idea about content.

Just guessing,

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#5 Old Thumbs up Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 07:04

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Hi Jouni,

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So you mean that PyS60 apps might run in Maemo, too? With some changes? Guess I will have to check Hildon API? Never thought S90 legacy would live this long
Yes, you can develop Python Applications with Maemo - PyMaemo

Check out GTK and Hildon APIs !

May be some games for Maemo devices would be great !

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#6 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 07:11

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So you mean that PyS60 apps might run in Maemo, too? With some changes? Guess I will have to check Hildon API? Never thought S90 legacy would live this long
Hi Jouni
yes you can do that and also can port the applications from each of the platforms.
I tried a few when i got my N810 but they were very simple ones.
You can have a go through http://www.maemo.org for more details.

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#7 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-18, 07:22

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So you mean that PyS60 apps might run in Maemo, too? With some changes? Guess I will have to check Hildon API? Never thought S90 legacy would live this long
hi JOM,

have a look at this article for details for Developing Python Applications for maemo.
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#8 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-20, 05:38

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Thanks Everyone!

I'll go with bachelor #3 and wait a little bit more to see if anything new comes out on this issue. Thanks croozeus! (I hope your winks and smiles are more than just for livening up the comment...)

Regarding maemo compatibility - yeah, usually the pure python code is very portable to nearly anything that runs python. I'm trying to use devices with weaker processors (e.g. N810) to make sure my code runs well (and then the same code can run on much more powerful devices, like laptop/desktop/etc.). Current form of pys60 broke this model..

My personal approach for applications that need be ported to multiple platforms is as much as possible not to bind myself to specific libraries like hildon or even GTK, so for example my GUI is built using Flash/Flash Light which is already present on so many platforms. Just my 2 cents for the side discussion that spun up.

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#9 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-22, 22:41

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The core passes almost all of the test suite already (<20 failures). Next we're porting ye olde 1.4.x modules.

Patience. It's coming.
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#10 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-22, 23:42

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The core passes almost all of the test suite already (<20 failures). Next we're porting ye olde 1.4.x modules.

Patience. It's coming.
Great news! Keep up the good work!

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#11 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-23, 04:46

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Ya its really a very very great news cant wait to see the release.

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#12 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-23, 05:23

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The core passes almost all of the test suite already (<20 failures). Next we're porting ye olde 1.4.x modules.

Patience. It's coming.
Very great news !
So many people are expecting this
Nice to hear you again
What a pity you can't attend to 3rd PyS60 talk yesterday

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#13 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-09-23, 05:34

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Thanks, jplauril, that IS great news!
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#14 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-12-16, 19:12

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Ye olde 1.4.x modules are (mostly) ported. The first rough developer release of the new 2.5 codebase - PyS60 1.9.0 - will be out soon. Stay tuned.
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#15 Old Re: Any expectation for Python 2.5+ support in PyS60? - 2008-12-16, 19:25

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This is great news!

You probably can't say how soon is "soon", right? Cause it can't be soon enough

Thanks for the update!
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