[Eugenia17]

T-Mobile in USA recently stopped allowing laptops or other computers connect to the internet via their GPRS network and a cellphone, while it still allows the phones themselves to be connected to their GPRS network.

My understanding is that the cellphone initiates a different kind of connection when acting as a modem and a different one when it connects with its own applications. It is also my understanding that the new PocketPC phones that use PAN instead of DUN can bypass this new T-Mobile restriction, because they act as routers to laptops rather than a modem.

Now, the question is this: what would it take to make Symbian S60 3.x phones to connect to GPRS and "share" their internet connection with laptops -- preferably through PAN? From what I know, the Nokia S60 SDK does not include all the needed headers/libraries to write a brand new Bluetooth service (if that was the case, I would imagine a A2DP service would have already be written by someone for the phones that don't support A2DP). Is there any way to go around the problem with the creation of a new user-space application, or ultimately, a PAN driver?

[petrib]

Originally Posted by Eugenia17

T-Mobile in USA recently stopped allowing laptops or other computers connect to the internet via their GPRS network and a cellphone, while it still allows the phones themselves to be connected to their GPRS network.

Makes no sense to me. Aren't they loosing a lot of potential data traffic because of this? Time to switch to a different network operator?

Anyway, if the phone doesn't come with Bluetooth PAN support, there's no way you can add it.

Also, I don't know how and why it'd look any different from the network's point of view, if the phone is using a packet data connection vs. a PC or PDA using it through the phone.

[Eugenia17]

Actually, when you are connecting via a modem functionality rather than directly to gprs, it is different and the carrier can detect that.

[jimgilmour1]

Originally Posted by Eugenia17

T-Mobile in USA recently stopped allowing laptops or other computers connect to the internet via their GPRS network and a cellphone, while it still allows the phones themselves to be connected to their GPRS network.
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. Is there any way to go around the problem with the creation of a new user-space application, or ultimately, a PAN driver?

This seems strange to me, however you can defeat all this by using Nokia Pc Suite to bypass this problem. This works on my laptop.
The only way they could stop laptops is by changing the username and password,stopping *everything* from using from using TCP/ip!!.

PC Suite "make sure the phone is connected" in the bottom bar.
Click connect to internet and configure. Select "TMobile United States".
Click next to complete and let the phone auto connect.
PC Suite provides all the routing of the packets over your bluetooth connection.
I have tried this for GPRS and 3G on Orange, but they say I should not use laptops , but I still do!.

Finally think about the problem of the Nokia E61,keyboard, browser, sort of computer, with the convergence how can you stop it.
TMobile "Web and Walk" in Europe is a great success.

Give PC Suite a go and ignore the marketing!!.
Good Luck,
Jim


PC Suite setups up the phone to connect via internet

[stickershock]

Originally Posted by petrib

Anyway, if the phone doesn't come with Bluetooth PAN support, there's no way you can add it.

Hi,
Actually, according to the symbian programmers networking overview, PAN could be added in the [Other Protocols] right above l2cap in the nokia bluetooth implimentation.

There is a programmer trying to port BlueZ to Symbian Check out the Blog.


https://blogs.forum.nokia.com/view_entry.html?id=719