[bryanfox]

Would someone know how I could play a web-based Windows Media stream on the E71x?

The source of the stream is:
http://www.drgenescott.com/Live_Video.asx

In a Windows environment this file would download to the device, be opened and one of the internal URLs would spawn the WMP (or perhaps the .asx file spawns the player), but one of the following URLs would initiate the stream:

<ASX version = "3.0">
<ENTRY>
<TITLE>Internet Broadcast</TITLE>
<AUTHOR>Pastor Melissa Scott</AUTHOR>
<COPYRIGHT>(c)2007 Pastor Melissa Scott</COPYRIGHT>
<REF HREF="http://a508.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/508/44903/v0001/reflector:38507"></REF>
<REF HREF="http://a1187.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1187/44903/v0001/reflector:39186"></REF>
<REF HREF="mms://a508.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/508/44903/v0001/reflector:38507"></REF>
<REF HREF="mms://a1187.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1187/44903/v0001/reflector:39186"></REF>
<REF HREF="rtsp://a508.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/508/44903/v0001/reflector:38507"></REF>
<REF HREF="rtsp://a1187.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1187/44903/v0001/reflector:39186"></REF>
</ENTRY>
</ASX>

This is not what happens with the E71x, however. Unsupported Filetype, I think was the message. I tried loading the .ASX file to the phone directly and as I expected the Symbian/RealPlayer environment didn't know what to do with that, either.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!!

[symbianyucca]

it is then likely that the data is not supported by the device, you might want to try some other types of streams.

[bryanfox]

The specs indicate that WMA and WMV are supported.

[S.S.Sudhakar]

hi,

It seems the streaming is being done on mms protocol and not on RTSP hence the issue. check by doing streaming by RTSP.

Regards,
sudhakar

[bryanfox]

Hi Sudhakar,

When you say "Check by doing streaming by RTSP, what do you mean? What can I do next?
The ASX file seems to have an RTSP URL in there.

rtsp://a508.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/508/44903/v0001/reflector:38507
rtsp://a1187.l4490338507.c44903.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1187/44903/v0001/reflector:39186


I would think RTSP is available, how can you tell?

[S.S.Sudhakar]

hi,

I mean to say have u tried by taking Rtsp URLs only? would you please check in this way ?

Regards,
Sudhakar

[bryanfox]

I will strip the ASX file of all but the RTSP URLs and see what happens. Thanks. But I have an idea that it might be choking on the ASX extension. What do you think... try .RAM?

[bryanfox]

ok... I tried... no go yet.

I haven't yet saved an .ASX file with just the RTSP entries, but the phone's document editor open the text file and actually displayed each of the URLs as links!! Very cool. Anyway, I tried the RTSPs separately and the RealPlayer opens, but it sits there "connecting" for eternity. Both RTSPs do the same thing. Then after a good long while, it times out and says "Unable to Connect"

Just for the heck of it, I tried the HTTP and MMS protocoled URLs. The HTTPs tried to Save the destination object, as one would expect. But interestingly enough, the MMS ones tried to play. They were Connecting, Connected, and Buffering... All the way up to 99% And they would just hang there indefinitely. No error. But no media, either.

Next I'm going to try to wrap the URLs in a .RAM script file, unless you have another idea

[bryanfox]

No luck - all avenues.

I don't believe that the E71x can actually play Windows Media 9 streams. It can play flat files, but I think that the specifications, which spell out a LIST of formats/codecs that included H.263/H.264 and MPEG-4 is written incorrectly. It should say that it must be one or the other. A WM9 wrapper might not contain either.

I'll probably be sending the phone back this week.


Thanks for the help.

[fightersoft]

Hi there,

I have the same problem with a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic. I especially bought this phone because in the specifications it mentioned WMV support. I developed a Windows Media based streaming platform and I wanted to add support for Nokia phones. However I was very dissapointed to see that it can't actually stream WMV.

Do Nokia people actually lie in the device specifications? Perhaps I am doing something wrong... is there another player that can open WMV/ASF streams?

Did anybody managed to open a Windows Media stream? I tried different approaches in Real Player such as:

http://89.89.89.89:8081/
http://89.89.89.89:8081/*

this gives me "General: System Error" (Jeez)

mms://89.89.89.89:8081/
mms://89.89.89.89:8081/*

this gives me "Unable to connect to server. Invalid web address."

rtsp://89.89.89.89:8081/
rtsp://89.89.89.89:8081/*

this times out after a very long while

Any clues?!

[bryanfox]

Nope. I was never able to do it. I tried many things, your variations included.

I have spent 3+ hours on the phone with Nokia and have been through 2-3 of AT&T

I don't think they are lying.... nor do I think they are unfamiliar with their own product (although their tech support is aggressively stupid and I'm certain that they are unfamiliar with all forms of technology). But as for the specifications, I have a surmise and from it a judgement regarding their claims. I think it's a matter of the one who prepared the content, did not fully understand how to communicated a finer point:

Namely, that the device can play the WMV format (from a flat file), but that it can't play streams of it. For that to be possible, the stream must be encoded with H.263/H.264. Minor change to the language would have save us both a LOT of time

Have your tests been of such?

[fightersoft]

I will test with a wmv file directly from the phone - however this is not what I need. And anyway... this can be easily accomplished with converters. If the decoding software is installed it is absolutly stupid not to do the full implementation and allow streaming since this is not the hard part if you have decoding support.

However, I read somewhere on the internet that MS and Nokia signed an agreement and MS will provide Windows Media Player for Nokia music edition handsets. I am guessing that these specs where written in anticipation to MS providing WMP for Nokia at a later date.