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#1 Old Getting Images off 3650 - 2003-08-12, 21:44

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I've read several threads about Bluetooth FTP on the Nokia 3650 (most informatively, this
http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/fo...uetooth+FTP%2A
thread by Victor Kulesh). It seems the central question is how to get images taken by the camera off of the phone. (Yes, I know you can send images one by one, but this isn't very practical for 100+ images) Is there any way to do this using _standard_ bluetooth protocols? Would it possible to implement a server on the phone (as C++ or Java app) that gives this functionality?

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Matt Wallace
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#2 Old 2003-08-13, 06:10

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Matt,

you would have to write two programs - one running on the phone and the other running on your computer. You can use RFCOMM to do the transfers. No need for FTP. I am even thinking of doing this for Macs. On PCs I am sure there is already a ton of software out there.

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#3 Old 2003-08-18, 10:58

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You can do this also without any software.
Go to Images->Mark->Mark all and Send->via Bluetooth

or press ABC button and simultaneously select images with a joystick/roller.

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#4 Old 2003-08-18, 13:12

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Except that it does not work!
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#5 Old 2003-08-23, 20:09

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Ditto to what Victor said about select all not working, doesn't work for me either.

Victor, I am actually interested in Mac software (Nokia's software works fine on my windows box). When you say that you can use RFCOMM, wouldn't this require knowing the protocol that Nokia uses to transfer files from the phone? If you (or anyone) could give a very general outline of how this would be done, I could probably tackle it.

Also, can anyone comment on why Nokia chose to be so non-compliant to Bluetooth standards? What possible advantage is there to implementing FTP and not allowing its use in downloading images?????

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Matt Wallace
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#6 Old 2003-08-23, 20:37

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ok two things:
1. I never said Nokia's implementation was non-complient with the FTP standard.
2. Whether I like it or not is a totally different issue.

Now the technical side of it.
Bluetooth FTP sits on top of RFCOMM. But nobody says you have to use FTP to transfer data. While you can implement the whole protocol it is probably a waste of time. I am pretty sure Nokia's windows connectivity software does not use FTP - probably some ad-hoc solution over RFCOMM.

So you can create your own protocol to do anything you want.

One way of doing it is to have a "MyOwnBluetoothFTP" server running on your phone. On the Mac side you would need a client that is capable of talking to the "MyOwnBluetoothFTP" server. What protocol they use to "chat"" is entirely up to you. The client then should be capable of asking for a list of drives/folders/files and being able to get/put files. Obviously you will have to send all data over BT RFCOMM.

If you are intersted in implementing anything like this send me an email and we can talk.

A bientot,
Victor
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