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#1 Old you help is needed, GPS reading via bluetooth - 2006-09-19, 12:44

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Hi All,
I am thankful for any contribution in this topic. I know it might be repeated somewhere, but I have read alot and could extract a cetrtain answer.

I would like to write an app that logs the GPS data of a Nokia connected to a bluetooth GPS receiver. I dont have the hardware yet but I should get it soon.

the app will be based on j2me.
I have downloaded many tools from nokia (S60 3rd Edition SDK for Symbian OS , Nokia developer Tools, Carbide), I know alot of details but I cant know how to "orchestrate" the tools:

before getting hardware:

so that not to waste time I need to start developping, but the questions is how to emulate the GPS receiver?
I have downloaded carbide, I like to write classes now, but how to test it if I dont know how to emulate GPS as I need to connect to the receiver.
Do I need a usb bluetooth dongle? if yes please any specification(1. or 2.0) or how to connect to it .
I have downloaded S60 3rd Edition SDK for Symbian OS as well, since the development will be based on it ( the device not bought yet).
I tried this page www.benhui.net, but it is under maintenance : (
this forum is full of useful info. but they dive into details, I just need how to emulate the environment before ?

-what is the role of nokia pc suite ?
thanks for any help
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#2 Old Re: you help is needed, GPS reading via bluetooth - 2006-09-19, 14:51

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Hi Welcome to Forum Nokia Bluetooth,

The are several problems here.
J2ME is Java and is compatible with:-
Carbide.J 1.5, Netbeans,Netbeans Mobile,Bluecove XP.

S60 3rd Edition SDK for Symbian OS is usually for C++,but can use java, unfortunately it uses different libraries.
The libary for bluetooth java is JSR82.

What is GPS make and model? e.g. web page link

What phone are you going to use?.

Bluetooth should be 1.0
I have a new belkin bluetooth adapter for PC Win XP SP2

new belkin bluetooth adapter

I loaded broadcomm bluetooth software supplied set discovery enabled and "paired" with my Nokia 6230i.

Microsoft have a list of supported bluetooth adapters which you will need to use PC Suite.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=841803


Ideally you would like to get a CSR type usb these are now hard to find and often do not work properly hence the very cheap.

I dont believe a bluetooth GPS emulator exists in either programming language

PC Suite is the way to transfer files from a PC to a phone like Nokia 6230i via Bluetooth or by buying a USB cable. PC Suite 6.6 onward supports Microsoft XP stack
Jim
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#3 Old Re: you help is needed, GPS reading via bluetooth - 2006-09-19, 19:26

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thanks for you contribution:

"S60 3rd Edition SDK for Symbian OS is usually for C++,but can use java, unfortunately it uses different libraries.
The libary for bluetooth java is JSR82.

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but I can see that it has an emulator under Carbide ? do you recommend not to use J2ME in this case for this platform S60 3rd Edition?

"I dont believe a bluetooth GPS emulator exists in either programming language"
so how can you program without having to compile each time and deploy on the mobile itself, this will be very impractical. there should be some other way rather than having to move the code which is still buggy otherwise how to find the bugs .

"What is GPS make and model? e.g. web page link

What phone are you going to use?.
"
actually based on the ansers I will buy the hardware, it is a kind of research, would you please recommend a mobile type and a GPS receiver that enables the logging of GPS data easily based on your experience?
thanks
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#4 Old Re: you help is needed, GPS reading via bluetooth - 2006-09-20, 10:13

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Hi,
I have insufficient knowledge of the GPS market to suggest a device which will work with a phone.

Click on "Search this Forum" and enter "GPS". Please be aware that most people have listed combinations that WONT work at first. Many people have been misinformed by eager sales staff.

If I was to buy one I would go for the big brand names or one that has a community help group. The other problem with recommendation is that all countrys have different types due to telecomms regulation.

Software is plentiful look on Navicore site
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...06/en_GB/2006/



Article about TomTom software
"Answer to:where is GPS bluetooth source for TomTom"
http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/fo...&highlight=GPS

On subject of emulation we usually have the device GPS, and run an emulator of the phone to test the software finally after it all seems to work then load it on to the device.
In Java this has been a problem, but now we have Carbide.J 1.5 with on board debug for the latest 3rd Edition phones.
see the Video on the debug process
http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.n..._0_en.exe.html

May be some one else can make a recommendation for a good working system.

Good Luck,
Jim
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#5 Old Cool Re: you help is needed, GPS reading via bluetooth - 2006-11-19, 02:03

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Hi,
I do not have still enough know-how to start programming on a Nokia, but I have a clear idea of the result I would like to have.

BLUETOOTH GPS EMULATOR that receive the coordinates via SMS
The goal is to have position of remote GPS.

The tool is an API pass through that put itself between the application and the OS after the installation:

Before installation:
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User APPLICATION
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|
V
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API
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OS Kernel & Devices
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After installation:
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User APPLICATION
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|
V
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GPS EMULATOR Hook
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API
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OS Kernel & Devices
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It is installed on two phones, and one is configured as CLIENT/RECEIVER and the other is configured as SERVER/SENDER. The Tool configuration control panel, has the possibility to schedule how many time should elapse between two SMS, and the Mobile number to which send a SMS. In addition it may have several GPS device emulation.

USAGE:
To better clarify, assume you are in vacation. Your friends have one 6600 with TomTom installed , the TOOL installed, and one BlueTooth GPS receiver. This phone will be configured as SERVER/SENDER , with 5 minutes interval between each SMS containing the GPS coordinates. The GPS coordinates will be taken from the GPS devices and sent via SMS to a specific mobile number configured on the control panel (that is your mobile). All will be done in transparent way for either TomTom that the mobile itself.

Then assume you have another 6600 with TomTom installed and the TOOL installed. This phone will be configured as CLIENT/RECEIVER and it will show a DUMMY Bluetooth GPS device to the applications running, so TomTom will believe it is a real GPS, and will start reading coordinates from it.

After 5 minutes it will receive the first SMS from your friends mobile, and the TOOL will capture the SMS and will extract the GPS data, parsing them in the correct format as it were real GPS data through the dummy bluetooth GPS device. Magically (!) TomTom will display the updated position of the remote mobile, and you may know where are your friends and meet them...

This is just an example of usage, but there are tenths of possibilities.

I am wondering is something like this already exists ?

Regards.
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