[cassioli]

NOTE:
this thread is about Jython (Python over PersonalJava) for UIQ; proper thread for REAL Python is here:
http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/fo...d.php?t=104246

Is it possible to port Python from s60 to UIQ platform?

[jplauril]

Sure. Are you a volunteer?

[cassioli]

Let me explain better...
I know about an existing attempt of porting Python to UIQ (I mean 2.x version), but it does not work on Motorola a1000.

I'm not a skilled c++ programmer, I know just the basis of compiling ready-made symbina c++ sources or adding some minor improvements to a source (such as adding a call to a library not already included in the project).

Is that enough to compile python for UIQ? Or should the code be heavily rewritten?

[jplauril]

The code uses mostly Symbian APIs, so most modules work directly. The one thing that will need to be completely rewritten is the appuifw module.

So no, it's not just a matter of recompiling, if you want to have a user interface for your apps.

[cassioli]

Originally Posted by jplauril

The code uses mostly Symbian APIs, so most modules work directly. The one thing that will need to be completely rewritten is the appuifw module.

So no, it's not just a matter of recompiling, if you want to have a user interface for your apps.

mmmhh...
I don't actually need python for its user interface, but for its "binding" to the hardware, as I usually develop in OPL, whose libraries are no more updated since 2 years.
Being able to write a "skeleton" app in python which just accepts keypresses would be enough, as I could easily "send keypresses" to other apps using OPL, i.e. I could control the python app at my will.

So, is it possible to compile python without user interface module?
Or is it just a crazy question?

[jplauril]

It is possible to compile Python without the user interface (with some alterations to the code), but you'd get just an app with no user interface whatsoever. I.e., a background "daemon" process. I assume OPL has access to local TCP sockets? If so, you could start a Python process in the background and communicate with it using sockets over the local network interface. This has been done before to hook up Python to different languages.

[cassioli]

Originally Posted by jplauril

It is possible to compile Python without the user interface (with some alterations to the code), but you'd get just an app with no user interface whatsoever. I.e., a background "daemon" process.

That's exactly what I was thinking about!

I assume OPL has access to local TCP sockets? If so, you could start a Python process in the background and communicate with it using sockets over the local network interface. This has been done before to hook up Python to different languages.

I don't know anything about sockets in OPL (or in any other language, actually...), but, as I said, I can have an OPL program "controlling" any application by sending it keystrokes, just like if an user was interacting with that application through the keyboard.

I go googleing for OPL sockest, anyway

[cassioli]

Originally Posted by cassioli

I go googleing for OPL sockest, anyway

is it this you are talking about?
http://www.starship.freeserve.co.uk/opx.html#CSOCKET
http://www.starship.freeserve.co.uk/...n/file-toc.htm

But this OPX extension is not compiled for UIQ, I should recompile it, and I don't know if it needs source fixing.

[cyke64]

hello ,

There's a port of python 2.3.3 on UIQ and I don't know if it works on Motorola M1000

links :
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk/mobile/python.htm
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk.../PythonUIQ.SIS
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk...honSymbian.zip

[cassioli]

Originally Posted by cyke64

hello ,

There's a port of python 2.3.3 on UIQ and I don't know if it works on Motorola M1000

links :
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk/mobile/python.htm
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk.../PythonUIQ.SIS
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk...honSymbian.zip

No, as I said:

I know about an existing attempt of porting Python to UIQ (I mean 2.x version), but it does not work on Motorola a1000.

Don't know why it does not work.
And also mShell for UIQ does not work.
And also Perl for UIQ does not work.
On this damned phone NOTHING does work!!!
So, maybe, if I compile something by myself, I can see if there is any compilation error message and understand what to change....

[cassioli]

So?
Any chance to port Python to UIQ "ignoring" any user interface?

[cyke64]

hello ,

I find UIQ Jython(Python in Java) working on (SonyEriccson P910i)

This Guy succeed in making work a Jython console on a UIQ phone. I don't understand all(it's in an Asian language) but it use Jcompile , Personal Java and compile Jython 2.1

links : http://isiam.blogspot.com/2006/12/jy...martphone.html

[cassioli]

Nice find!
I'll check it.
Thanks.

[cassioli]

I am not able to install jython on mu uiq phone, due to "invalid manifest file" error. Tips?
I can't understand how UIQ hanldes JAR files: there are some JAR which are intened for being INSTALLED, others for being STARTED (like an application); in what do they differ? I guess jython jar is "startable"... but how can I start it???

[gotan]

Originally Posted by jplauril

The code uses mostly Symbian APIs, so most modules work directly. The one thing that will need to be completely rewritten is the appuifw module.

So no, it's not just a matter of recompiling, if you want to have a user interface for your apps.

Any idea what other things need to be done? has anyone attempted to even try and compile pys60 under the S80 SDK?